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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">一、�Q何一�U?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">软�g都有光���用范围�Q�至���到目前为止�Q�还没有一个��Y件可以成为放之四������皆准的通用软�g。即使，某些声称自己是通用软�g的公�怹�不行�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">二、�Q何一�U?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">软�g都是<st1:rtx w:st="on">建立</st1:rtx>在一�U�管理思想或者管理结构上的。我们知道，���理本无定法�Q�也没有优劣之分�Q�主要看其是否能够解决问题。��Y件不�q�是�q�些思想的一�U�体现�Ş式，同样也摆�׃��了这个约束�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">三、实�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">不是目的�Q?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">只是一个系�l�工兗���这几乎已成��p��。我们试囄���一个系�l�思考的办法来解决企业各部门之间的协调与资源�׃�n�Q�以辑ֈ�企业整体�l�营�l�效的目的�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">四、多数情况下�Q?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">都有个在实际�q�用中进行二�ơ开发的问题。如果说�Q�实�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">表现有好、坏之分的话�Q�主要还是看软�g公司二次开发的能力�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">但是�Q�以上这四点观念�Q�都无法回避一个事实：现在�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">�?st1:rtx w:st="on">建立</st1:rtx>在流�E�基���之上的。因为，�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">业务���程重组</span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">做理论指��|���q�方面还�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">而我的观�Ҏ���Q?st1:rtx w:st="on">建立</st1:rtx>在流�E�基���上的</span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">要说�Q�对中国�Q�对民营企业�Q?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">�q�很遥远。因为，我无法穷举，所以，为防止招来批评，我不得不界定成上�q�的一个相对狭�H�的范围�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">��Z��么？�q�是中国的客观现实所然�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">今天的中国市场变化太大了�Q�昨天的英雄�Q�今天可能就成�ؓ了失败者。中国的企业外部环境是多变的。在�q�种情况下，一个企业想要经营良好，没有多变�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">机制或者更准确��_��具备灉|��的应�Ҏ���Ӟ��恐怕是很难持久的。进一步讲�Q�由于企业经营机制多变，那就要求企业具备动态调整的能力�Q�这�U�能力从企业实际来讲�Q?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">���是�Q�组�l�结构多变、权责多变（也是权责不清的一个原因）、�h员多变、流�E�多变等�{��?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">那么�Q�作�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">软�g开发的公司来讲�Q�是不希望你变来变去的，一是��Y件设计师在模块规划时很难协调�Q�二是二�ơ开发可能因为多变而成了多�ơ开发，�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">件公�怹�受不了。有的��Y件公��ؓ逃避�q�种责�Q�Q�干脆把源代码交�l�企业，�׃��业去自行修订。可是，有多���企业有�q�样的强大开发能力呢�Q?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">其实�Q�问题既不在于企业多变，也不在于软�g公司不负责�Q�Q�而是<st1:rtx w:st="on">建立</st1:rtx>在流�E�基���上的框架是个�ȝ���?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">包括四川�l�尼�U�公司在内一些早期应用过</span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">。。。我们不得不加班��d��数据�Q�否则第二天其它部门上班便没法运作。。�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">一个很典型的情��c��由于流�E�的限制�Q�上、下部门之间的数据库是被���程捆绑��h��的，所以，���程要求�q�样�Q�你不得不先行一步。但是，我们��g��应该思考一下，�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">们真的应该这样吗�Q?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">我们不妨换个角度看看。如果，我们不把���程作�ؓ数据库链接的基础�Q�而是把流�E�所产生的结果作为基����Q�那会是一�U�什么样的情况呢�Q?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">��x���l�果而不是关注流�E�，那么无论���程如何多变�Q�均没有什么可以担忧的�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">只要�l�果能够反应企业的整体经营需要，随着市场环境的变化，企业可以动态调整自��q���l�织�l�构、调整自��q���q�作���程。需要说明的是�h员的调整也同样不会��生大的媄响，而现在的��x�����程的方式，倒要受到�q�方面的影响�Q���得企业不得不再行投入成本�q�行培训�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">只有三种情况是例外：企业���程本��n比较�E�_��或变革后���程重新�E�_��的能力很强；软�g公司的后�l�开发能力很强（往往有管理顾问做后盾�Q�；企业自��n的��Y件开发调整能力超强�?/span>
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		<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 宋体;">否则�Q�应�?/span>
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